Thank you, Mr. Keeland, for the comment on my blog. I got the feeling that much of the story behind the Vanger clan had quite a bit to do with "'Swedish' sexual mores," as you put it - especially with the facts placed at the beginning of each part of the book.
I will indeed have to read the next two books in the series, because I am intrigued as to how Ms. Salander will develop. I found myself wishing she played a larger role in the first book. And if the sex (the relationship sex, rather than the criminal) plays an important role in establishing the next books, as you suggest, then I might have to retract some of what I have said after reading them.
If you have any further thoughts, and would like to and have the time to share them, I'd love to hear more of your take on the subject. I could continue, but I (also new at blogging) will take a cue from you and try to keep my comment below full-post length.
Cheers, from a fellow Albuquerquean (who knew?), Z.N. Hively
Ja, das wäre eine super Idee! (Can't answer in Swedish, but I do what I can.) I will likely be back this summer, and it would be great to talk with you, especially if I can continue reading before then.
And, yes, let's get some discussion going! I'd love to see what other people are thinking.
Actually, the sex didn't strike me as being anything much out of the ordinary, though I'm admittedly basing this more on late night conversations I've had (over booze or not) than personal experience. To make a rather odd comparison, if Italian novels can establish a sense of place with copious mentions of good food, I don't see any particular reason copious amounts of consensual sex can't also evoke a setting. I know the latter's rather more taboo in some circles than the former, but surely that's part of the interest in reading about different cultures.
The Last Good Man - A.J. Kazinski [translated by Tiina Nunnally]
The Black Echo - Michael Connelly
Worth Dying For - Lee Child
Gateway - Frederik Pohl
Inside the Jihad: A Spy's Story - Omar Nasiri
Relic - Douglas Preston & Lincoln Child
Me, the Mob and the Music: One Helluva Ride with Tommy James and the Shondells - Tommy James with Martin Fitzpatrick
2084: An Oral History of the Great Warming - James Lawrence Powell [on Kindle]
Eleven Minutes - Paulo Coelho
Untouched by Human Hands - Robert Sheckley (his first collection of SF stories, some of which hold up well after 57 years)
The Hidden Child - Camilla Läckberg [translated by Tiina Nunnally]
Silesian Station - David Downing (if you like books about Berlin in the '30s & '40s, this series is excellent)
Zoo Station - David Downing
After the Wall - Jana Hensel
On Gratitude: Celebrities Share What They're Most Thankful For - Todd Aaron Jensen (lots of nuggets of wisdom here)
The Tourist - Olen Steinhauer
Tripwire - Lee Child
Black Betty - Walter Mosley
The Main Experiment - Christopher Hodder-Williams
Dead Low Tide - John D. Macdonald
Albums I'm listening to
Lionel Hampton & Teddy Wilson with Gene Krupa (1960s)
George Benson/Joe Farrell: Benson & Farrell (1976)
Larry Carlton: Sleepwalk (1982)
Al Cohn/Zoot Sims Quintet: You 'n Me (1960s)
Joe Pass, Clark Terry, et al: A Celebration of Duke (1980)
Eric Gale: Blue Horizon (1982)
George Benson: Blue Benson (1976)
George Benson: Body Talk
A Man and the Blues - Buddy Guy (1968) Buddy's first Vanguard album and still one of his best -- with the wondrous Otis Spann on piano
Hoosier Hot Shots: Everybody Stomp (2003) Great 4 CD set from Proper Records in the UK (if you haven't heard these guys, check them out -- the happiest music on the planet!) "Are you ready, Hezzie?"
Tony Mottola: various pop guitar albums from the '60s
Erik Satie: Piano Music (Aldo Ciccolini) (1950s) Magnifico!
Eric Gale & Ron Carter: In a Jazz Tradition (1988) Tasty!
Bob Dylan: Blonde on Blonde (1966) My favorite poetry in song form
The Harmonicats: Best Loved Hits (1984) Fond memories of my grandfather's 78 collection...
Velvet Underground & Nico (1967) The Lou Reed workouts are the standout on this disc
Hoyt Axton: Life Machine (1974)
J.S. Bach: Orchestral Suites 1-4 (1739)
Some of my favorite movies
District 9 (2009) a modernized PhilDickian tale about humans and aliens; which do you think are more human?
The Soloist (2008) very good movie that zeros in on what music does to your mind
The Night of the Hunter (1955)
Out of the Past (1947)
Strangers on a Train (1951)
Vertigo (1958)
Cinema Paradiso (1988)
Chinatown (1974)
Buena Vista Social Club (1999)
The Awful Truth (1937)
After the Thin Man (1936)
The 39 Steps (1935)
The Big Sleep (1946)
The Saragossa Manuscript (1965)
Any B science fiction movie with Whit Bissell, such as Creature from the Black Lagoon (1954), Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956), I Was a Teenage Werewolf (1957)
Good seeing this new blog
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ReplyDeleteThank you, Mr. Keeland, for the comment on my blog. I got the feeling that much of the story behind the Vanger clan had quite a bit to do with "'Swedish' sexual mores," as you put it - especially with the facts placed at the beginning of each part of the book.
ReplyDeleteI will indeed have to read the next two books in the series, because I am intrigued as to how Ms. Salander will develop. I found myself wishing she played a larger role in the first book. And if the sex (the relationship sex, rather than the criminal) plays an important role in establishing the next books, as you suggest, then I might have to retract some of what I have said after reading them.
If you have any further thoughts, and would like to and have the time to share them, I'd love to hear more of your take on the subject. I could continue, but I (also new at blogging) will take a cue from you and try to keep my comment below full-post length.
Cheers, from a fellow Albuquerquean (who knew?),
Z.N. Hively
Hi ZN,
ReplyDeleteWho knew indeed? If you're ever in town I'll have to invite you for a cup of coffee -- in true Swedish tradition. Des isch a gute Idee, gel?
Here's a link to those posts about the sex in TGWTDT.
http://znhively.blogspot.com/2009/02/girl-with-dragon-tattoo-by-stieg.html
Let's get some real discussion going here!
Ja, das wäre eine super Idee! (Can't answer in Swedish, but I do what I can.) I will likely be back this summer, and it would be great to talk with you, especially if I can continue reading before then.
ReplyDeleteAnd, yes, let's get some discussion going! I'd love to see what other people are thinking.
Actually, the sex didn't strike me as being anything much out of the ordinary, though I'm admittedly basing this more on late night conversations I've had (over booze or not) than personal experience. To make a rather odd comparison, if Italian novels can establish a sense of place with copious mentions of good food, I don't see any particular reason copious amounts of consensual sex can't also evoke a setting. I know the latter's rather more taboo in some circles than the former, but surely that's part of the interest in reading about different cultures.
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